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years in the senate, but he's not somebody who seeks the spotlight very often. new mexico's democrat jeff binghamton who has built a reputation among his colleagues as a quiet workhorse. i asked him if the senate by its very nature forces people over time to become more politically pragmatic. >> well, i think that that's happen to folks who came in when i did, like 30 years ago. but frankly i think it's more difficult for members to be flexible in their views coming into the senate today. there's so many litmus tests that you have to go through to get nominated and get elected that particularly on the republican side, i think there's a real effort to pin you down as to where you're going to be on very major issues that are facing the country. >> you have worked with five presidents now, if i get it right, you've served under five president, reagan, bush, clinton, bush, obama. give me some of the pros and cons of how each of them dealt with the senate. start with reagan, what do you think he did right and what could he have done better? >> of course i had many disagreements with presi
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